answer to murtad about quran 1001 question part1

the answer to murtad about quran 1001 error, all the answer will be source from Quran and Sahih Hadith,

my answer will be in red colour

PART I OVERVIEW OVER CONTENTS PLUS INTRODUCTION OF SOME TOPICS.

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Chapter 1-1-0-0	Contents - an overview.(Links at the right hand side).
Chapter 1-2-0-0	Approximate age of the different surahs + cross references.
Chapter 1-3-0-0	Some serious questions and comments.
Chapter 1-4-0-0	To my murderer.
Chapter 1-5-0-0	Introduction.
Chapter 1-6-0-0	Preface about the Quran.
Chapter 1-7-0-0	A few words about Muhammad (more in Part XI).
Chapter 1-8-0-0	A few words about Allah.
Chapter 1-9-0-0	The making and translation of the Quran. (NB: Read this!)
Chapter 1-10-0-0	Short about Hadith (the 2. religious base or source for Muslims).
Chapter 1-11-0-0	Some essential information from and about texts in the Quran.
Chapter 1-12-0-0	- - - and a serious PS.(NB: Do read this! Serious!)
Chapter 1-13-0-0	Tries to refute or discredit "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com - by Muslims and by Islam.
Chapter 1-14-0-0	Sources for this book:

“The Holy Quran”, translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
“The Message of the Quran” by Muhammad Asad.
“The Meaning of the Quran” by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
“Sahih Ahadiths” – Hadiths after Al-Bukhari.
“Sahih Ahadiths” – Hadiths after imam Muslim.
“The life of Muhammad” by Muhammad Ibn Ishaq.
Different other sources.

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chapter 1 - lesson 1 is about all the chapter
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PART I, CHAPTER 1 (= I-1-0-0)

1. 1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN, MAIN PAGE. CONTENTS - AN OVERVIEW

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I OVERVIEW OVER CONTENTS PLUS INTRODUCTION OF SOME TOPICS.

Chapter 1-1-0-0	Contents - an overview.(Links at the right hand side).
Chapter 1-2-0-0	Approximate age of the different surahs + cross references.
Chapter 1-3-0-0	Some serious questions and comments.
Chapter 1-4-0-0	To my murderer.
Chapter 1-5-0-0	Introduction.
Chapter 1-6-0-0	Preface about the Quran.
Chapter 1-7-0-0	A few words about Muhammad (more in Part XI).
Chapter 1-8-0-0	A few words about Allah.
Chapter 1-9-0-0	The making and translation of the Quran. (NB: Read this!)
Chapter 1-10-0-0	Short about Hadith (the 2. religious base or source for Muslims).
Chapter 1-11-0-0	Some essential information from and about texts in the Quran.
Chapter 1-12-0-0	- - - and a serious PS.(NB: Do read this! Serious!)
Chapter 1-13-0-0	Tries to refute or discredit "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - http://www.1000mistakes.com - by Muslims and by Islam.
Chapter 1-14-0-0	Sources for this book:

“The Holy Quran”, translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
“The Message of the Quran” by Muhammad Asad.
“The Meaning of the Quran” by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
“Sahih Ahadiths” – Hadiths after Al-Bukhari.
“Sahih Ahadiths” – Hadiths after imam Muslim.
“The life of Muhammad” by Muhammad Ibn Ishaq.
Different other sources.

PART II THE MISTAKES AND ERRORS IN THE QURAN.

Chapter 2-1-1-0	DO ALL THE MISTAKES, ERRORS, CONTRADICTIONS, ETC. IN THE QURAN PROVE 110% OR ONLY 100% THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH MUHAMMAD AND HIS QURAN - AND HENCE WITH ISLAM?
Chapter 2-1-2-1	Mega Mistake 1, part 1, in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-2-2	Mega Mistake 1, part 2, in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-2-3	Mega Mistake 1, part 3, in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-2-4	The 5 Mega Mistakes in the Quran that should kill Islam - if intelligence counted.
Chapter 2-1-3-1	Mistakes and errors about Allah in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-2	Mistakes and errors about the Quran in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-3	Mistakes and errors about Muhammad in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-4	Invalid "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-5	Mistakes and errors about non-Muslims in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-6	Mistakes and errors about Jesus in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-7	Mistakes and errors about the Bible in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-8	Mistakes and errors about God/Yahweh in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-9	Mistakes and errors about Destiny in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-10	Mistakes and errors about the visible sky in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-11	Mistakes and errors about Earth in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-12	Mistakes and errors about man and living beings in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-13	Mistakes and errors about history in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-14	Mistakes and errors about The End in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-15	Mistakes and errors from legends and fairy tales in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-3-16	Mistakes and errors about differtent topics in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-1	Surah 1 - 5 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-2	Suran 6 - 10 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-3	Surah 11 - 20 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-4	Surah 21 - 30 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-5	Surah 31 - 40 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-6	Surah 41 - 60 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-7	Surah 61 - 80 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-8	Surah 81 - 114 The "Encyclopaedia" of fact mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-1-4-9	Fact mistakes and errors in the Quran - inevitable conclutions.
Chapter 2-2-0-0	Grammatical mistakes and errors in the Quran.
Chapter 2-3-0-0	Non- Arab words in the Quran.
Chapter 2-4-0-0	Animism and antromorphism in the Quran.
Chapter 2-5-0-0	Muhammad in the Bible? - claims in the Quran.
Chapter 2-6-0-0	Is Allah just another name for God/Yahweh like claimed in the Quran?
Chapter 2-7-0-0	Is Allah in the Quran better than God/Yahweh in the Bible?
Chapter 2-8-1-0	300+ internal contradictions in the Quran (also see 7-10-3-0).
Chapter 2-8-2-0	100+ externan contradictions in the Quran.
Chapter 2-9-0-0	150+ abrogations in the Quran - - -.
Chapter 2-10-0-0	15 mistakes and errors in the Quran accepted byIslam and Muslim scholars.

Part III: MORE MISTAKES AND ERRORS PLUS UNDOCUMENTED CLAIMS IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS,ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Chapter 3-1-0-0	Claims about falsified Bible according to the Quran.
Chapter 3-2-0-0	Contradictions (unproven claims) to the Bible in the Quran.
Chapter 3-3-0-0	Many mistakes and no proofs from the Quran, but strong demands for proofa from everyone else.
Chapter 3-4-0-0	Mistakes about the history of Jesus in the Quran.

Part IV: SOME OF THE DEMANDS FOR JIHAD - HOLY WAR - IN THE QURAN AND ISLAM:

Chapter 4-1-0-0	Incitements for war in the Quran.
Chapter 4-2-0-0	War and Jihad - Holy War(or mostly Unholy War for booty and riches, power and spreading Islam by different compulsions) - in the Quran and in Islam.
Chapter 4-3-0-0	Terrorism.

Part V: NON-MUSLIMS UNDER ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND ISLAM, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Chapter 5-1-0-0	Good verses for non-Muslims in the Quran.
Chapter 5-2-0-0	Muslims are better than others - dogmatic suppression and apartheid in the Quran.
Chapter 5-3-0-0	Make no friends with non_muslims - dogmatic apartheid in the Quran.
Chapter 5-4-0-0	Incitements in the Quran to dislike and discriminate on non-Muslims - dogmatic discrimination, suppression, and apartheid.
Chapter 5-5-0-0	Slaves in the Quran and Islam (Islam was the largest slave owner and trading people in the world, perhaps except Negroes in some African Negroe states).
Chapter 5-6-0-0	Non-Muslims in a Muslim world according to Muhammad and his Quran, and hence to Muslims and Islam.
Chapter 5-7-0-0	The claimed "Age of Golden Co-Existence" - non-Muslims under Muslims and under Islam.

Part VI: MUSLIMS UNDER ISLAM IN mUSLIM COUNTRIES ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Chapter 6-1-0-0	Life of Muslim men according to Muhammad, the Quran, Islam, and Allah - and according to Muslim men.
Chapter 6-2-1-0	Life for Muslim women - women as human beings.
Chapter 6-2-2-0	Muslim women and the law (sharia).
Chapter 6-3-0-0	Life for Muslim children according to the Quran and hence to Islam.
Chapter 6-4-0-0	Muslim law - sharia - in the Quran.

Part VII: DIFFERENT TOPICS:

Chapter 7-1-0-0	Is Allah a better and more benevolent god than God/Yahweh?
Chapter 7-2-0-0	Is Allah a good god?
Chapter 7-3-0-0	From where are the stories in the Quran borrowed?
Chapter 7-4-0-0	Requeste in the Quran for proofs for Allah and for Muhammad's contact with a god.
Chapter 7-5-0-0	Natural phenomena (dis)used as (invalid) "signs", (invalid) "proofs", etc. in the Quran.
Chapter 7-6-0-0	Othe invalid "signs" and "proofs" in the Quran about Allah and about Muhammad's contact with a god.
Chapter 7-7-0-0	More (invalid) loose claims and statements in the Quran.
Chapter 7-8-0-0	Boasting or fast-talk in the Quran. "If Allah willed - - -".
Chapter 7-9-0-0	More fast-talk in the Quran.
Chapter 7-10-1-0	Some essentials for understanding the Quran.
Chapter 7-10-2-0	The Quran is to be understood literally according to the Quran.
Chapter 7-10-3-0	450+ cases of the unclear texts in the Quran.

Part VIII: THE NEXT LIFE:

Chapter 8-1-0-0	Paradise of Islam as described in the Quran.
Chapter 8-2-1-0	Hell - punishment in the grave (only in Hadiths).
Chapter 8-2-2-0	Hell - the real one - as described in the Quran.

Part IX: SOME SPECIAL OR VERY SPECIAL TOPICS IN ISLAM:

Chapter 9-1-0-0	Predestination in Islam as told by the Quran.
Chapter 9-2-0-0	Free will or not for man?
Chapter 9-3-0-0	Ethics and moral in Islam - no moral philosophy, only Muhammad's example.
Chapter 9-4-0-0	Al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) - very special immorality in the Quran and Islam.
Chapter 9-5-0-0	Persevere - A WORD NON-MUSLIMS SHOULD NEVER FORGET.

Part X: INCINCERE DEBATES AND INFORMATION:

Chapter 10-1-0-0	Incincere debate and information in the Quran and from Islam.
Chapter 10-2-0-0	Incincere or dishonest debate in central Muslim literatur.
Chapter 10-3-0-0	Incincere Muslims in debates about Muhammad, the Quran, Islam, and Allah.
Chapter 10-4-0-0	Some of the wrong arguments you meet about Muhammad, the Quran, Islam, and Allah - - - and the answers.

Part XI: SHORT ABOUT MUHAMMAD - THE SELF-PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF ISLAM:

Chapter 11-1-0-0	Muhammad 570 - 610 AD - before he started preaching.
Chapter 11-2-0-0	What is TLE (Temporal Lobe Epilepsy)? - possibly Muhammad's illness according to BBC (and others).
Chapter 11-3-0-0	610 - 622 AD. Muhammad - a peaceful messenger.
Chapter 11-4-0-0	622 - 632 AD. Muhammad - an inhuman self-proclaimed prophet of war.
Chapter 11-5-0-0	Muhammad lying in the Quran.
Chapter 11-6-0-0	The paedophilic (?) Muhammad.
Chapter 11-7-0-0	The womanizer and rapist Muhammad.
Chapter 11-8-0-0	The thief, robber, extorter, enslaver, slave trader, etc. Muhammad.
Chapter 11-9-0-0	The inhuman Muhammad.
Chapter 11-10-0-0	Muhammad and his lust for power.
Chapter 11-11-0-0	The murderer and mass murderer Muhammad.
Chapter 11-12-0-0	Muhammad and his raids - mainly for wealth. Mostly named Jihad - Holy War.
Chapter 11-13-0-0	Muhammad and his wars: Jihad - Holy War (at least claimed to be so).
Chapter 11-14-0-0	Muhammad - his moral, ethics, and empathy - - - or lack of this.
Chapter 11-15-0-0	Dates and years in the life of Muhammad.

Part XII: SOME RHOUGHTS AND CONCLUTIONS:

Chapter 12-1-0-0	Short on relevant topics about the Quran,Muhammad, Muslims, Islam, and Allah.
Chapter 12-2-0-0	Resumees and thoughts about the Quran,Muhammad, Muslims, Islam, Allah - - - and Ramses II.
Chapter 12-3-0-0	Cultural devellopment and stagnation in the Muslim area since 632 AD.
Chapter 12-4-0-0	Some final - and inevitable - conclutions about the Quran, Muhammad, Muslims, Islam, and Allah.

Part XIII: SOME RELEVANT ADDESSES:

Chapter 13-1-0-0

Some relevant Internet addresses.

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1-0) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2-0).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To inform or debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com .
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Muhammad? - and what than is Islam? - a made up, invalid religion?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on a thread with "1000 mistakes" in the title on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page. We cannot answer on that page, though, as it is not safe enough - we have had death threaths (better to kill an opponent, than to check if a religion brainwashed into you only on the word of a man who even practised lies (f. ex. "war is deceit") and advocated breaking even your oaths if that gave a better result, is true ot made up - old beliefs are hard to question).
Please inform all and everybody and all relevant fora - f. ex. Internet pages for debate or information - about the address http://www.1000mistakes.com. It is information that is urgently needed by many, not least by Muslims. No god made a book with so many mistakes and other wrongs - and if the Quran and Islam are made up by humans or dark forces, where are the followers of this inhumanly dark and brutal war religion heading for in a possible next life?

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chapter 1 - lesson 2
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PART I, CHAPTER 2 (= I-2-0-0)

APPROXIMATE AGE OF THE DIFFERENT SURAHS IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH + CROSS REFERENCES.

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
In the Quran there frequently are verses that “collide” or verses where one is stricter than the other. In those cases one uses the Islamic abrogation rule: The youngest verse normally is the one that counts - the older one is “exchanged for a better (?) one” - even the Quran itself mentions this. You meet Muslims protesting that such a rule exists, because that means that Allah had problems making up his mind or was not wise enough to make the rules good enough at once and from the start - he had to try and fail. In a way quite correct – it seems that he was not - - - but no matter how they protest or explain, some verses (some hundreds) are abrogated anyhow. This they try to explain away f. ex. with that Allah did not change the rules, just made them stricter - the rules for alcohol are often used as an example. But for one thing only in some cases it is possible to explain things away that way, and for another the problem still stands: Allah had to try and fail to find the best rule – to strengthen a rule also is an abrogation. The problem for readers, are to know which are older than which, as it is mostly not said in the Quran. Abrogation also is deeply integrated in mainstream Islam and in Muslim law. The protests are just based on refusal of facts + wishful thinking.
Most verses from the Mecca period (610-622 AD) which are mild towards non-Muslims are f. ex. overridden – abrogated - by verses of lawful robbery, hate, rape, blood and killing from the Medina period (622-632 AD). When it comes to subjects like war, treatment of non-Muslims, and connections with non-Muslims, not to mention in Muslim law, it therefore is very essential for us - and for Muslims - to know which verses counts, and which not (or even less), and which overrides – abrogates - which. Because of this we have found this table. BUT WE STRESS VERY STRONGLY THAT IT SHOULD BE USED WITH THE GREATEST CARE, PARTLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT A CANONIZED ONE, AND PARTLY BECAUSE EVEN ISLAM DOES NOT KNOW THE EXACT AGES OF MOST OF THE SURAHS. There is sure to be at least minor mistakes. More exact lists are said to exist (f. ex. one made by Th. Noldke), but we have been unable to find any of them yet. If/when we find a better one, we will adjust this list. But it will make no great difference, as the main and great divide is between before and after the flight from Mecca in 622 AD, and that divide any list has mainly correct. Until we find one that is better, we will use this one. The result will be at least roughly correct.
The left and the middle of the table list the surahs by approximate age + the serial numbers we use for (approximate) age references. The far right shows which surah has which age and serial number – cross references. Beware that the list to the right - 2 columns - has no direct connection to the rest. It is just placed there because it was convenient.
In the chapter about war/jihad and in a few other chapters where we wanted to show the devellopment of Islam, the surahs are arranged by the serial numbers because they very approximately range the surahs according to age. There it may be easier to find the surah you look for, by first finding the serial number. NB: As the main overview is ranged by age, it also automatically is ranged by serial numbers – see the last column in that overview. To find the serial number of a surah, see the cross reference. The serial numbers at the same time tell (approximately) which surahs that are older and younger than each others.
NB and once more: The two last columns is a totally different list, the cross reference - placed there only for the sake of convenience.
The surahs and serial numbers reckoned in chronological order by approximate age: Cross references:

Surah no.	Made year (approxim.)	Exceptions verse	Comments	Serial no.	Surah no.	Serial no.
096	610	V.6-19 later	No.1 (July/Aug 610)	001	001	002
001	610-614			002	002	088
068	611-614		Likely no 3.	003	003	092
073	611-614		Likely no 4.	004	004	096
080	611-614		Early	005	005	107
111	611-614		Likely no 6.	006	006	063
081	611-615		Likely no 7.	007	007	062
087	611-615		Likely no 8.	008	008	090
092	611-615		Likely no 9.	009	009	105
089	611-615		Likely no 10.	010	010	066
093	611-615		After 89	011	011	067
094	611-615		Just after 93	012	012	068
103	611-615		Shortly after 94	013	013	109
072	611-615			014	014	072
074	611-615			015	015	069
075	611-615			016	016	078
102	611-615			017	017	065
107	611-615			018	018	077
109	611-615		Shortly after 107	019	019	035
112	611-615			020	020	036
091	611-615		Shortly after 97	021	021	070
085	611-615		Shortly after 91	022	022	047
095	612-615		Shortly after 85	023	023	073
101	612-615		After 95	024	024	098
053	612-615	V. 13-18 (later +?)	Shortly after 112	025	025	033
104	613			026	026	042
054	614?		Just after 053?	027	027	043
086	614			028	028	064
077	614		Between 104 and 50	029	029	076
050	614			030	030	044
090	614-615		Just after 50	031	031	038
36	614-615		Just before 25	032	032	074
025	614-615		Same time as 19	033	033	095
035	614-615		Between 25 and 19	034	034	058
019	614-615		Just after 19	035	035	034
020	614-615		Late 614/early 615	036	036	032
038	614-615			037	037	045
031	614-617			038	038	037
070	614-617			039	039	046
088	614-618			040	040	048
056	615			041	041	049
026	615-616			042	042	050
027	615-616		Shortly after 26	043	043	051
030	615-616			044	044	052
037	615-617			045	045	053
039	615-617		Medium Mecca	046	046	056
022	616 app	39+49=622, some 624	Medium Mecca	047	047	078
040	616-618		Group of 7 (40-46)	048	048	100
041	616-618		Just after 40	049	049	106
042	616-618		Group of 7 (40-46)	050	050	030
043	616-619		Group of 7 (40-46)	051	051	059
044	616-619		Group of 7 (40-46)	052	052	075
045	616-620		Group of 7 (40-46)	053	053	025
067	618-619			054	054	027
069	618-619		Just after 67	055	055	110
046	620		Group of 7 (40-46)	056	056	041
072	620		About time of 46	057	057	103
034	620?		Shortly before 17	058	058	099
051	620?			059	059	091
078	620-622		Late Mecca	060	060	102
079	620-622		Just after 78	061	061	093
007	621		Before 6	062	062	089
006	621	Except two or three verses		063	063	094
028	621	V.85 in 622?	Just before 17	064	064	111
017	621 or later		Aft. 28, bef.11,12,13	065	065	097
010	621		Between 17 and 11	066	066	101
011	621	V.12, 17, 114 later?		067	067	054
012	621		Shortly after 11	068	068	003
015	621		Just after 12	069	069	055
021	621-?		Late Mecca	070	070	039
071	621-622			071	071	071
014	621-622		Just after 71	072	072	057
023	621-622		Last Mecca?	073	073	004
032	621-622		Just after 23, Mecca	074	074	015
052	621-622		Just after 32?	075	075	016
029	621-624?	Many unclear	Late Mecca or early Med.	076	076	112
018	622		Just before 16	077	077	029
016	622		Mecca (same time as 72)	078	078	060
082	?		Mecca	079	079	061
100	?		After 103 sometime	080	080	005
105	?			081	081	007
106	?		V.105?106=one?	082	082	079
113	?		Early Mecca?	083	083	086
114	?		Early Mecca?	084	084	085
084	622		Just after 82	085	085	022
083	622	V.1-4 Medina	Perhaps last Mecca	086	086	028
047	622	V. 13 Mecca	1. Partly in Medina?	087	087	008
002	622-624	V.275-281 in 632	1.Full in Medina	088	088	040
062	622-625		Early Medina	089	089	010
008	624	Some v. later		090	090	031
059	624-625			091	091	021
003	625		No. 2 in Medina?	092	092	009
061	625-626		Late 625 or early 626	093	093	011
063	625-626		Late 625 or early 626	094	094	012
033	625-629	Many diff. years (627?)	Medina	095	095	023
004	626	V.58 later, (some v. before?)		096	096	001
065	626-628			097	097	014
024	627-628		Late 627 or early 628	098	098	113
058	627-628		Likely early 628	099	099	114
048	628		Late 628	100	100	080
066	629			101	101	024
060	629-630		Likely early 630	102	102	017
057	630-632			103	103	013
108	630-632?		Age unclear	104	104	026
009	631			105	105	081
049	631			106	106	082
005	632	Some v. earlier	One of latest	107	107	018
110	632		The last surah	108	108	104
013	?		(Much?) after 17	109	109	019
055	?		Just after 13	110	110	108
064	?			111	111	006
076	?			112	112	020
098	?			113	113	083
099	?			114	114	084

A reminder: Using this table one should be very careful not to make too strict conclusions from years close together, as the years often are not exact, and as there may be other mistakes - Islam sometimes have to guess the age from wage points. But for years wider apart, it is more reliable as to which is oldest and which is youngest. And mostly Islam is able to decide between the Mecca and the Medina periods.

POST SCRIMTUM FOR THE TABEL.

As for seeing tendencies in the development of Islam – and in Muhammad - this table is more than sufficient. F. ex. you will see that Muhammad - or Allah - grows stricter and more spiteful and Islam more inhuman and bloody from 622 AD, as the years rolls by and he gains more power (the fact that he was not accepted by the Jews, may also have counted after coming to Medina - the rejection itself or the lost hope for more power as a leader also for them).
Less tolerance of “infidels”, more “no friends with ‘infidels‘”, more hate and suppression against “infidels”, more slaves and rape, more warlike against “infidels” - may be also stricter towards his followers. Why should Allah change that much over - for a god - no time? But a human can change like that in 23 years and even in much shorter time - power leaves its traces, and so do greed and lust for power. “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Muhammad and Islam changed fast and much after the flight to Medina in 622 AD, and Muhammad’s start as a thief/robber/extorter/rapist/murderer and later warlord.
Because it is difficult to see which verses are oldest and youngest reading the Quran in ordinary succession of the surahs, we use the numbers above, and place them according to age, the oldest first, in the chapters about “tolerance”, “ Muslims better“, “No friends”, “Hate against and treatment of ‘infidels’”, and “War/holy war/jihad”. Then also you can see the development and degradation of Muhammad and his religion.
We also have been told (but yet not checked) that he was not brazen enough to really use the title “prophet” until late in life, as he really was not a prophet. (He never pretended or even claimed to have the gift of being able to make prophesies – the minimum requiremet for being a prophet. That only was an imposing and impressive title he “borrowed”. Also see chapter I/7).
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
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chapter 1 - lesson 3

PART I, CHAPTER 3 (= I-3-0-0)

SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

The Quran many places tells that Allah decides everything - absolutely everything (f. ex. the time of your death is decided even before you are born – when the foetus is 4 months old actually). But the Quran also tells that man has a free will. These two are not possible to combine. (Muslim thinkers have not been able to explain this through 1400 years (the same goes for the next 3 questions, whereas question no. 5 is not discussed in Islam - there may be death penalty or at least extrication for it)). F. ex. “The Message of the Quran” - a book certified by the al-Ahzar Muslim university in Cairo, one of the top Muslim universities and a book of high esteem in Muslim propaganda - says: “We can not explain it, but it has to be true, because it is said by Allah (in the Quran*)”. A total capitulation and a very impressive statement, especially when you know the Quran is full of mistaken facts and logically invalid statements, “signs” and “proofs”. See f. ex. the chapter about predestination and free will. Has man really free will? Or does Allah really decide everything? Both together are impossible in spite of what the Quran and Islam claims – as normal from Islam only unproven claims.
The Quran states that Allah is omniscient and knows everything also concerning the future. But the Quran also states that man has free will. These two statements are not possible to combine as mentioned above, because if man has free will, his actions will change the future - and it will not be possible to foresee these changes if man’s will really is free, this even if the will only is free to a miniscule degree. Is Allah really omniscient? – man can always change his mind once more if he has free will, and what then about what Allah thought he knew? See the chapter about predestination and free will.
The Quran states that Allah is omniscient and omnipotent. But it also states that Allah sends accidents and catastrophes and demands fighting and war – all this to test you. How does Islam combine these two statements? - if Allah is omniscient, he knows everything and testing is for no reason, and much of the testing totally destroys his image as a good god.
The Quran many places states that Allah blocks the way - or the way back - to Islam for some people, especially for “bad” persons. Allah’s “blocking” then makes them not regret and repent, which at least a few would have done under “normal” circumstances. All the same he sends these persons to Hell without giving them this chance to repent. How can he then be called a good god?
Islam and Hadiths tell that Allah decides 5 months before you are born whether you are to end in Paradise or Hell. How can a person doomed to Hell before he is even born be blamed for the bad things he is forced to do, and how can he think of Allah as a benevolent god?
If the Quran is manmade - like all the mistaken facts and contradictions and f. ex. invalid “proofs” may indicate - and if there somewhere exists a real god, Islam blocks all Muslims under threat of death penalty many places, from searching for this possibly real god. Is this a good fate in case?

Then there is the question of what values a society is built on. These values can roughly be split in 3:

Positive values - like honesty, caring for others, etc.
Empty values - things, acts or thoughts people believe are valuable because they are told so, but that really has no value. F. ex. to keep the beard at the same length as Muhammad's.
Negative or false values - what tradition etc. tell is price-worthy, but that in reality are bad. Like suppressing/mistreating or killing fellow human beings because they are not Muslims, or raping slave children or women - they after all are human beings who normally detests being raped.

a.
Islam has some positive values - like be honest (except when defending or forwarding Islam, cheating women, secure your money, etc., when you use al-Taqiyya – the lawful lie – if necessary), deal fairly, take care of orphans, etc.
b.
Islam has a lot of empty values - like meaningless formalities, aping Muhammad also in meaningless details, etc.
c.
And Islam has a big lot of negative/false values - like stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, suppressing others, murder, hate and war. And the very worst: The glorifying of blind belief and the suppression of all knowledge not related to Islam (called "foreign knowledge" - and thus negative).
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 4

PART I, CHAPTER 4 (= I-4-0-0)

4. TO MY MURDERER. FANATIC SIDES OF THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
Not to be panegyric about Muhammad is bad, according to Muslims. To ask critical questions about him is heresy and carries a death penalty. And to draw conclusions about him Muslims do not like - it counts nothing that the conclutions may be 100% true - makes it a duty for all and every Muslim to murder him. Or her. Muhammad had also women murdered when they opposed him, and he is the great idol – everything he did is right and ethically and morally correct. One can ask questions about Allah and one can disbelieve Allah, but not about the semi-saint Muhammad - he has to be an unquestioned saint even though he cannot be called a saint formally, because the Quran prohibits it. Why has he got to be without doubt the perfect and infallible saint? Simply because the historical Muhammad was a doubtful person with a doubtful morality, not the glorious picture Muslims paint - and all the same all Islam rests only, and absolutely and utterly only, on such a man’s words.
Are you angry because of my words? But can you be angry because of things Islam itself tells? My words here are correct quotes and logical conclusions from reading the Quran, some strengthened Hadits and Islam’s own history about Muhammad - f. ex. Muhammad Ibn Ishaq “The Life of Muhammad”. Can you be angry because I believe what Islam itself tells? Did you yourself really read the Quran and the Hadits and Ibn Ishaq - read it with your brain and with all your knowledge about history, geography, archaeology, astronomy, psychology, etc., not only with your eyes and/or your imprinted old ideas – so that you saw the mistakes before you sentenced me to death?
There is no doubt that Muhammad raped at least two women. There is no doubt that he liked many wives – mainly young wives - and may be some other women (there are f. ex. half a dozen known "connections" where one does not know if there was a marriage or just lustful sex. There is no doubt that Muhammad took slaves and also accepted and took part in slave trade (was it some 2ooo women and children that were taken as slaves only in Khaybar and sold or used as gifts or “gifts” from the last Jewish tribe in/outside Yathrib/Medina - in Khaybar?). There is no doubt that he for the 10 last years lived from stealing/robbing, extorting and murdering (the years in Medina). There is no doubt that he used torture. There is no doubt that he betrayed people - he even himself said that war was betrayal (and that what is not Muslim area, is war area). There is no doubt he was a murderer (he had many opponents murdered). There is no doubt he was a mass murderer (f. ex. the some 700 men in Khaybar). There is no doubt that Islam was very much changed (it is easy for anyone to see if they read the surahs chronologically) around/after 622 AD (what was wrong with his milder teachings in Mecca?). There is no doubt that Islam as thought in the Quran switched from a relatively benign one in the Mecca period, to an Islam that in Medina became a religion of hate, stealing/robbing, rape, suppression, and war. All this I have learnt from esteemed Muslim books - as I said: From among others Ibn Ishaq, Hadith and the Quran.
Can you be angry with me because I quote such thoroughly Islamic books?
Can you be angry with me because I point to that ALL Islam is built only on this man’s word?
Can you be angry with me because I mention this man’s merits as told in Islamic books?
Can you be angry with me because I mention these plain ISLAMIC truths?
Do you really want to murder me because I tell what the Quran and Hadith and Islamic history books really tell?
Do you claim that I am making up things, when it is so easy to check if I quote and tell the truth?
The thing is that freedom - also the freedom to tell what is true, not only what a terrorist or a dictator likes that you tell - has to be defended. And a sure way to loose that freedom, and all other freedom, is to give in to terror, be it from states or murderers. One can be careful because of danger. But one has to be able to face one’s own mirror in the mornings.
There were two reasons for our decision to start this work:

There is a real chance that in the future Islam will become dominant, simply because of its militancy and use of different kinds of threats, pressure and terror. That will in case be a stagnant world - for more than 900 years Islam has been unable to bring forth a single new idea benefiting humanity. You can date the total stagnation to 1095 AD (ca. 1198 AD in Mahgreb/Spain) and a book by “the greatest Muslim after Muhammad” – Al-Ghazali. It also will be a world of scarcity and hunger, because a system where the most pious, not the best qualified, have the final word on many levels, will not be able to feed so big a population - Muslims make many children. This even more so as such closed systems are very open to corruption and consequently to more inefficiency.
Another reason for scarcity, will be that in Muslim countries, one cannot teach people critical thinking – they may start thinking about and asking questions about some of the mistakes and the nonsense logic many places in the Quran. And without chritical thinking little progress.
Well, may be I am too pessimistic - in 1941 it looked like the Nazis were winning. But true information and a stronger will among the democracies to fight when they really had to, than the brainwashed Nazi religion - because it became a religion to many - believed, turned the tide. (Islamic ideology has many similarities to Nazism).
2. All the mistaken facts in the Quran prove that something is wrong - it cannot be made by an omniscient god. And all the invalid “signs”, statements, contradictions, and not to mention “proofs”, etc. are even worse, because to make mistakes can happen (though not to an omniscient god), but active use of invalid statements and invalid proofs, are not honest mistakes - that is the hallmark of cheats, deceivers and swindlers - - - and knowing the real character and moral of Muhammad according to ISLAMIC history (not the later religious gloss some Muslims have painted him with), that is sinister. Especially as there have been so many self-proclaimed “prophets” quite similar to Muhammad through history, though not as successful as him, that one recognize the picture. It also tells something that Muhammad “borrowed” the title “prophet” – he never was a prophet. May be he was a messenger or an apostle to something or someone, but not a real prophet - he neither had, nor claimed to have, not pretended to have the gift of being able to make prophesies. If Islam is a made up religion, and if there somewhere exists a real religion (which we honestly have come to doubt during our studies of the Quran), Islam blocks the road to that religion for all Muslims. It will in case be a rude awakening for them if there is a Last Day when they expect to enter the honestly primitive Paradise described in the Quran, and find - - what?
My only request before you murder me - or anybody else - is that you first read all the Quran, and read the some 22-24 surahs from Medina separately or preferably all the surahs in the Quran chronologically, and thus control if my information about mistakes and contradictions and logically unfounded statements and “signs” and claims (remember that I said logically unfounded, because it is the foundation under them all that is lacking - Allah is a great god if he made the sun - - - but there nowhere really is proved that he made it). But during your reading you shall use your knowledge - not just what someone or the imams tell you, but real, checked knowledge - and your brain, not just your eyes or ears.
It is not possible for an intelligent, educated person used to asking questions, not to see the mistakes and the logical wrongs in the Quran. (Why do you think the Quran and some educated Muslim so strongly stress that you should believe blindly and without questions and without asking for proofs or real indications? - but you have to be very naïve to accept blind belief impressed on you by leaders who like their leading positions, or by your parents who only has been told so by others who base their words just on claims, in such serious questions as religion and eternity – especially in a religion based only on the words (words that frequently collides with and are killed by harder demands and deeds – and deeds and demands are more reliable than words) of a man with as doubtful ethic and moral and a strong lust for power like Muhammad.
A disturbing fact: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there are no ptoof for Allah and impossible to ptove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to Allah. If there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam? And in this case: What are you murdering for?

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 5

PART I, CHAPTER 5 (= I-5-0-0)

INTRODUCTION TO THE BOOK "1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN" - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND EVEN OF ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
There are many learned books about the Quran - but who reads learned book? This book is so simple, that everybody can read it and understand it - and each comment or explanation does not take much time to read and understand, even if you have little knowledge about such things. It is meant as a book to open and find information when you need, but also to read like another book with historical and other facts if you like. And not least: It so closely follows the Quran (Abdullah Yusuf Ali’s translation to English, in Islam reckoned to be one of the three best, if not the very best, translations ever made to English - the two others are Pikthall and Shakir (though Mohsin Kahn is not too bad either)), that everybody can control that every quotation is 100% correct - and that then the conclusions are right. It actually is an encyclopaedia over points and over the mistakes in the Quran, but built over the surah and verse numbers in the Quran, instead of over the alphabet.
Once more: FOR FREE USE AND SPREADING vocally, for friends, in print, on Internet or however – only remember to refer to the name and Internet addresses whenever you use it, so that more people can find it. If there ever is a printer brave enough to print it, let the royalty go to Save the Children if he can afford it. Perhaps later when the text is not new? PUT IT MANY PLACES on Internet - Muslims will like to block it. (Though blocking will not help much – we will just post it other places on Internet). It also is fully permitted to use material from this book for further work, if you refer to at least the title ("1000+ Mistakes in the Quran") and Internet address ("http://www.1000mistakes.com") of this book. (But if someone publishes a work too dissimilar to the contents of this one, saying it is a revised volume from Klog Belaest, ask him or her to tell the meaning of the code in the first chapter - it is a clear identification. That a code is necessary, tells something about how life in a possible future Muslim society may be – “1984” combined with ayatollah Khomeini, bin Laden and mullah Omar?).
NNNNNNNNBBBBBBBBB: http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 Internet adresses specially warned egainst by name, by Muslim organisations - "keep proselyts away from http://www.1000mistakes.com or else the may start disbelieving. It is worth notising that the Muslim organisations do not claim it is a hate page - it is definitely not, only straight facts and information - AND THAT THEY DID NOT UTTER ONE WORD ABOUT THAT THE INFORMATION IS WRONG - only that you mah loose procelytes and others if they read http://www.1000mistakes.com.
This book may be extra informative to non-Christians (and non-Jews), as the Quran to a large degree builds on (twisted) stories from the Bible. Non-Christians - and also many Christians, not to mention Muslims - do not know the Bible well, and then are unable to see what is made up and what may be true (We say “may be” because also not the entire Bible is proved). Also many are not well enough versed in science, history, geography, etc. to see where the Quran is wrong - sometimes wildly wrong.
One small remark to Hindus. Some of you make “war” against Christians – a mainly religious war. But is this the right moment to do so, when there is a common antagonist that today is the only one with the declared religious and political goal to conquer the entire world and to suppress all non-Muslims? – an antagonist that in the past behaved FAR worse in India – the former big India - than any Christians - - - just ask f. ex. Delhi. Also remember: If Islam takes over, Christians after all are “the People of the Book” and at least half humans. But you according to the Quran, are just Pagans – worth zero or less (that was the main reason why Islam murdered so many hundreds of thousands in what in the earlier times were the states of India, now partly Pakistan and Bangladesh + India, included skinned alive, burned alive and buried alive.)
In addition to from Biblical legends the stories in the Quran often are in accordance with religious and other fables, legends and fairy tales that were well known in Arabia at that time, but which are proven to be made up and not true. Even the Biblical stories Muhammad mostly did not know from the Bible, but from folklore (he hardly knew the Bible at all, only the religious stories and fables that sometimes really were from the Bible, but mostly were made up, and he did not know which were which - it is likely that Muhammad in all his life never even saw a Bible) and quoted what he liked – but most often falsely compared to the Bible. Then when someone told him he was wrong according to the Bible, he promptly explained that the Torah (main Jewish scriptures and first part of OT) and the Bible were falsified by the bad non-Muslims, and that his stories were the true ones. As true as the ones he took from other branches of the Arab folklore and a little from further east, gave a twist and told they were from Allah.
Finally: No human is perfect - and we far from it. If we have overlooked points that should have been included, please inform us. And if we have made mistakes - but we mean real mistakes, not something based on religious wishful thinking - we would dearly like to know, so we can correct the book. Go to our Feedback form.
It is normal for many Muslims to try to explain away any information that does not conform to the standard dogmas and stories of Islam, not to mention if information - even obvious facts - indicate or show that something is wrong with the religion or with the Quran. A very normal way to do it is simply to state - without proofs - that you are lying. Or that you are an Islam hater or a Jew lover and as such everything you say is to be dismissed as lies or at least as without any interest or value. But even if we were avid Islam haters, that is not the question - the question is: Does this person speak the truth at this point? (Actually there is a better chance to get the difficult questions and the difficult facts from the hater of something, because a lover will never mention them - especially not in religion). But actually we are no haters of Muslims - only frightened by Islam and stupefied that so many Muslims can read the Quran – and the Hadiths - and not react to the mistakes and other strange points.
As this book so closely follows the Quran, it as we say is easy for you to control that all quotations are correct. Then use your brain: Is what the writers further say, logical and correct? And the other way around: If someone tries to explain away something or simply call something a lie: Just open the book and check - and there you also have the references to where to find it in the Quran, so you can go directly to the Quran and see if the writer or orator is lying or the “opponent” is bluffing. (The Quran in English paperback just costs a few Euro or pounds or dollars - according to Muslims the translation made by Abdullah Yusuf Ali may be the best one - and it is the one used as basis for this book - but the ones translated by Pikthall or Shakir may be as good – though there may be minor differences in the translations.)
Once more: Use your own brain when reading this book – and not to mention when reading the Quran - and when discussing with or reading pro-Islamists - it sometimes is so essential for Muslims to prove that there are no mistakes in the Quran (because then something is wrong with the religion) that they “twist” the facts a little - or not a little. And even once more: Remember to use your knowledge and brain when you read the Quran.
For many Muslims blind belief is highly attractive and praised. It is better to not doubt and not to find out if something is wrong - - - and get a surprise in the (perhaps) next life - than to check all the possible mistakes, contradictions, and invalid “signs” etc. that an omniscient god never had used - and may be do find out that something is wrong in time to search for the right religion (if such one exists) on this side of the possible Day of Doom. After the Day of Doom it is said to be too late. Besides: If they do not check if something is wrong, fanatics will not murder them.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson6

PART I, CHAPTER 6 (= I-6-0-0)

PREFACE ABOUT THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
Originally we were little interested in religion, but as more and more Muslims arrived in the West, we found that we ought to read their holy book - the Quran (also written the Qur’an or the Koran) - because it is not possible to understand a people and their culture, without knowing their religion.
We read. And were shocked and frightened. We had been told - especially by Muslims - that Islam is a peaceful religion. In a way it is - but only towards other Muslims, and only as long as some Muslim leader does not want a war against “infidels” or as long as some Muslims do not declare that some other Muslims are not really Muslims. There are lots and lots of incitement to war and hate and discrimination towards non-Muslims in the Quran. Islam as given in the Quran – and especially in the 22-24 surahs from Medina – simply is a religion of hate and suppression, stealing/robbing and rape, blood and war. But we know a number of Muslims - most of them do not live according to those points in the Quran. And little by little our attention gravitated towards a mystery: The Quran tells it is sent down by the omniscient god Allah, and is perfect and without mistakes, Muhammad told the book was sent down from the god and was perfect and without mistakes, Islam tells the same, and so do Muslims.
AND ALL THE SAME THERE ARE LOTS OF MISTAKEN FACTS AND OTHER MISTAKES IN THE QURAN + A LOT OF INVALID AND WRONG LOGIC.
The Quran denies it. Muhammad denied it. Islam denies it. Muslims deny it. But all the same: Anybody with good knowledge of f. ex. geography, history, psychology, archaeology, or astronomy will find a great number of mistakes in the book.
F. ex. the Quran tells about the Muslim (!!) Alexander the Great (under the Arab “nickname” Dhu’l Quarnayn = “The Two-Horned One“, which is a well known Arab name for Alexander to science) in surah 18, that he travelled west till he found the place where the sun set “in a spring of murky water” on Earth!! In addition to the other wrong points here, we know from history that Alexander never travelled west. Macedonia (his native country) and Egypt were the furthest west he ever came.
And what about the statements about 7 material heavens or firmaments that is frequently (ca. 200 times) mentioned in the book? - with the stars fixed to the lowermost of these (the heavens also have to be material to make it possible to fix the stars to one of them). And how about using stars as weapons against bad spirits? - the maker of the book obviously did not know the difference between a shooting star and a real star. Any god had known better. But Muhammad believed this - this was the astronomy of that time in Arabia (actually it is from Greek and also Persian/Indian astronomy of that time, a fact Muslims NEVER mention).
Not to mention the most well known mistake: According to the Quran, Mary - mother of Jesus - was the daughter of Imran and sister of Aaron (and consequently of Moses – 1200 years earlier). It is known from Hadith (Muslim traditions about Muhammad) that already Muhammad tried to “explain” those two mistakes, but neither he nor later Muslims have succeeded - scientists of religion (included some Muslim ones) agree on that Muhammad made a mistake here. Either when creating or when reciting it.
And to mention a last one: According to the Quran Jesus was thought the Gospel as a child/youth. But the oldest of the Gospels (there are four, not one) was written some 25 years after Jesus died (new discoveries say may be some years earlier). They simply did not exist - could not exist - when Jesus was that young. After all the Gospels are the story of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, and could not be written until after his final disappearance. Perhaps - perhaps - one existed that was older than ca. the year 60 AD, but also this for very obvious reasons had to be written after Jesus' death, resurrection and disappearance. More about this later.
The whole religion of Islam is built on one presumption: That Mohammad always spoke the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and never forgot or made details wrong - and especially so when he told that the Quran was sent down from Allah, the omnipotent and omniscient god. But an omniscient god does not make mistakes “en masse” – he does not make mistakes at all. Neither does he use invalid “signs” nor “proofs” or invalid logic - only cheats and deceivers do that.
This became a mystery for us - the mistakes etc. were so many and so obvious. But hundreds of millions of Muslims could not all live in a fool’s paradise or in an illusion!? We had to be wrong and there had to be some explanation. The mistakes were so easy to see - anybody can go to the Quran and find them. There had to be something we had overlooked.
And the mystery became even deeper as it dawned on us that a number of the mistakes were in accordance with the picture of the world and of history that learned men in the Middle East believed in at the time of Muhammad. Any god had recognized them as mistakes, but Muhammad believed it all to be correct. It was simply in accordance with what Muhammad thought was correct geography, history, astronomy, etc.
We honestly tried to find explanations. But it is difficult to get answers - “explanations” yes, explanations no. And the answers were not even polite sometimes - we “had to be stupid or Israel-lovers or Muslim-haters or we just parroted anti-Islamic propaganda” to ask such questions and not simply accept that the Quran is perfect and without mistakes, no matter what mistakes it contains. Even organisations for Islamic information were sarcastic as they answered my stupidity: We f. ex. asked for an explanation about the statements in the Quran that the heavens are supported by “pillars you do not see”. The answer was that “everybody with an IQ greater than 60, understand that that means there are no pillars”. We replied that we know the difference between invisible pillars - the statement in the Quran - and non-existing pillars, and asked for a real explanation. We never got an answer.
The enigma of the Muslims and all the obvious mistakes in the Quran still is an enigma for us.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 7

PART I, CHAPTER 7 (= I-7-0-0)

SHORT ABOUT MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET OF THE QURAN, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(There are much more in chapter XI).

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
Muslims turn raving mad when someone says something not flattering about Muhammad - remember f. ex. the Danish cartoons about him some time ago (an episode that told the rest of the world a lot more about Islam and about Muslims than Islam and Muslims really wanted us to understand). But Muslims will have to accept that most of the world really does not believe Islam is the true religion - if they did, they had become Muslims long time ago. Consequently they then of course do not believe that Muhammad always said the truth - if they did, they had turned Muslims quickly.
Also: It is not an insult to anyone - f. ex. Muhammad - to tell what is true (f. ex. that a person who let 700 helpless prisoners be murdered, and then took all their families for slaves - and personally raped a newlywed 17 year old woman after having tortured her husband to death the same day - is not an obviously good man). Neither is it an insult to ask honest questions, even if it is questions about f. ex. Muhammad - f. ex. how can the verses where it clearly is Mohammad who speaks, be sent down from Heaven and be copies of a revered “Mother book” there? - and so old a book that may be it was never written, but always existed? (The last is not said in the Quran, but is an accepted “truth” for many Muslims).
There is one other main fact about Muhammad that is never mentioned or debated – yes, most people, not to mention most/all Muslims, do not even think it over that it is incorrect – a conveniently forgotten fact - even though it is very obvious that it is wrong: Muhammad was not a prophet, he just “borrowed” that impressive and imposing “heavy” title.
The definition of a prophet is a person who:
1. Is able to make prophesies. If not he/she of course is no prophet.
2. The prophesies must at least mostly come true. If not he/she obviously is a false prophet.
3. Prophesying must be a not too unsubstantial part of his/her mission/work in life – you do not merit the title carpenter even if you repair your garden shed a little once every blue moon.
Muhammad neither had, nor claimed or pretended to have, the gift of being able to make prophesies. There is nowhere in the Quran where he states he makes prophesies, and nowhere in the Quran where he even claims he is able to make prophesies – on the contrary actually: Whenever there is a request for anything supernatural (prophesying is something supernatural – a miracle) to prove that Allah is real or to prove Muhammad’s connection to a god, the Quran is back-pedalling heavily to “explain” why Allah did not wish to do so. The back-pedalling was sometimes so heavy, that there is no chance that an intelligent man like Muhammad did not know that the main argument – that one or a few real miracles would not make anybody believe him anyhow – was and is a lie.
There is not a little about miracles, clairvoyance, etc. connected to Muhammad in the Hadiths. But the Quran proves 100% that these are made up legends – the book’s repeated and strong back-pedalling whenever the question was raised, proves that. If miracles (and making prophesies is one class of miracles) connected to Muhammad had happened, the Quran proudly had told about it instead of the persistent “explaining” away of the question one finds in the book. Yes, if anyone – friend or foe – had ever seen or reliably heard about one single miracle, the request or challenge respectively for a miracle as a proof for Allah and for Muhammad's connection to Allah had never been raised, not to mention raised so persistently that it found its way into the Quran because it needed to be explained away.
There are a few cases where what Muhammad said – or at least what Islam tells he said – came true. But it is impossible for a person to talk much throughout a long life, included optimistic pep-talk to his followers and warriors, unless at least a little of it comes true – and then is remembered (whereas the rest is forgotten) by strong supporters. But the main fact is that when Muhammad said something, he never even pretended it was meant as proper prophesies. And he never claimed to have that gift. Actually one of the things that strikes one when reading the Quran, is the total absence of intended prophesies and of intended foretelling of the future – except the mentioned few that by accident just happened ro come true. No real prophesying at all. And as said: Not one claim from Muhammad of being able to make real prophesies.
So when f. ex. Moses said there was going to come “a prophet like me”, and the Muslims claim that is a foretelling about Muhammad, that is a joke: How could Muhammad be “a prophet like Moses” when he in reality was no prophet at all?!
Muhammad was no real prophet – he only “borrowed” the title. A “forgotten” fact.
Muhammad's life can be split in three:
1. “Ordinary” life (ca.570-610 AD). He became a salesman when he grew up. Muslim traditions tell he was an honest one. There is no special reason to disbelieve this, but also there are only Muslim sources - and for Muslims/Islam it is very essential to believe he was honest and never lied or cheated or betrayed – all of which he did - because all Islam only rests on his words.
2. Self proclaimed prophet in Mecca for a rather peaceful religion with a few followers (610-622 AD).
3. A self proclaimed prophet in Yathrib/Medina (622-632 AD) who changed his religion sharply towards hate and blood and suppression in and shortly after 622 AD, when he and his followers started to make a living from stealing/robbing, enslaving and extorting. This is very easy to see if you read the surahs in chronological order. Non-Muslim experts on Islam’s history agree on that his morality and his religion detoriated very much and became much more inhuman after he came to Medina - perhaps this was a cause of his growing success, as the war and suppressing/enslaving and robbing religion attracted the Arab warrior tribes much more than his former peaceful version. It is very clear from the Quran if you read the surahs in chronological order and from the Hadith, that Muhammad liked power and liked to be the undisputed ruler - the representative of Allah, and in some ways even trying to be synonymous with Allah's power on Earth - and that he aspired for more and more power - - - and remember that “absolute power corrupts absolutely”. Just look at how he glued himself to the god – his platform of power. Stealing/robbing, extortion, hate, rape, dishonesty, betrayal, suppression, enslavement, slave trading, torture, assassination, murder, mass murder and war - everything was “lawful and good” and liked by Allah, in order to forward his religion and consequently his power. Regarding Islam the dishonesty (f. ex. the 30 men from Khaybar he guaranteed safe conduct for peace talks, but instead murdered), betrayal (remember f. ex. his “war is betrayal” combined with the fact that everything outside Islam was and is “land of war”) and lust for power may be most serious - how reliable is such a man when he talks about his platform for power, his religion? See also the chapter about “al-Taqiyya” – the lawful lie.
He also personally practised rape of young women and he became a grand scale womaniser, just like so many other self proclaimed prophets - - - and needed Allah’s help to keep his harem peaceful and obedient some times. Either his personal moral and ethic detoriated - or hidden sides of his personality surface.
More about Muhammad in separate chapter.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 8

PART I, CHAPTER 8 (= I-8-0-0)

A FEW WORDS ABOUT ALLAH, THE GOD OF THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, AND ISLAM

(There are more at the end of the book).

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
The old Arabs had lots of deities. Some 360 were represented in the Kabah in Mecca. Of these 4 were dominant in the region around Mecca and in large parts of Arabia: al-Lah, and his three daughters al-Lat, al-Uzza and (al-) Manat. The top god was al-Lah (the name means “the god“- not “God“, but “the god“).
Muhammad changed the name of this old polytheistic main god slightly from al-Lah to Allah, told that all the other gods (but not Allah) were just fantasy and made up, and that Allah and the Jewish/Christian god Yahweh was the same god - a statement that only Islam states, but most Jews and Christians oppose, and with a good reason; as there are too many fundamental differences; it can not possibly be the same god behind Islam and the two other religion, and especially not the one based on the New Testament (NT) – not unless the god has a severely split personality; schizophrenia. (“Do not kill” vs. “Do not kill without a good reason”, the search for and the value of the “lost lamb” vs. “Do not mourn the wrongdoers”, to mention just two.)
Allah is also a much harder god towards non-believers than Yahweh - at least as you meet Yahweh in the New Testament (NT) and the new covenant versus Allah in the late parts of Muhammad’s teachings in the surahs from Medina. In the Old Testament (OT) it is told about wars 2000-4000 years ago. NT hardly accepts war. The Quran, and especially the surahs from Medina, not only incites to hate and war against non-believers, but also makes such wars a duty - before, now and in all the future, until Islam is dominant and all others are suppressed, second class citizens with few rights, and paying extra tax. Nice texts for terrorists. The difference is that the Christian religion sometimes have been disused for political or military purposes in spite of the religion and the NT, whereas Islam has been used - and disused - in accordance with the religion, and especially in accordance with the last some 22 surahs from Medina (the ones really valid according to Islam’s and Muhammad’s and the Quran’s rules for abrogation (when two or more verses disagree, the youngest one normally is the correct one and the oldest one/ones is/are invalid - the ones from Medina are the youngest ones, and the ones preaching hate and rape, suppression and blood).
No, it is not the same god behind these religions - not unless Allah is at least schizophrenic.
Well, as we did not find the answers, we list the mistakes we have found, and ask any and all Muslims and non-Muslims for explanations. Please tell us where we are wrong, so we can understand why Islam is a real and true and benevolent religion. But please let it be real explanations, not fast words just to hide a mistake - we mostly will see through fast talk anyhow.
If we have made any mistakes, please tell us and they will be corrected (but on the other hand; if there are mistakes we have overlooked, we will appreciate information about that, too - but again; it has to be real mistakes, not speculations).
AND FINALLY: Allah never - NEVER - proved his existence or any connection to Muhammad. There only were words. The cheater and betrayer (f. ex. Khaybar and its peace talk delegation)
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson9

PART I, CHAPTER 9 (= I-9-0-0)

THE MAKING AND TRANSLATION OF THE QURAN, THR HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

- AND SOME QUOTES

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
If nothing else is said, all our quotations from the Quran are from “The Holy Qur’an”, translated by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, the 2000 edition from Wordsworth Classics, printed with permission from Islamic Propagation Centre, Islamic Vision, 434 Coventry Road, Birmingham, B10 OUG, UK. Mr. A. Yusuf Ali is reckoned by Muslims to be one of the top 3 translators of the Quran to English (the other two are Pikthall and Shakir), if not THE best.
The book is cheap in paperback, and anybody can read it - the language is easy, though often boring and far from high quality literature - and control if our quotations are correct. And anyone can look for the mistakes or other things if they want.
According to Muslim sources, the story goes that the Quran got its final content ca. 650 AD (not later than 656 AD under the third caliph, Uthman). But that is not 100% true – actually far from 100% true. This partly because even if everybody was ordered to burn old Qurans and only keep the new, official one, it took at least 100 - 200 years and may be more (books after all were valuable - and represented the religion like they had learnt it) before all other ones were destroyed, and the texts were known to many educated people. This resulted in changes now and then in texts as they were copied - by hand. Besides the Arab written language at that time lacked the short vowels and also still had none of the points Arabs today use when writing (the so-called dicrital points) and the other signs like full stop, comma, etc. - the written Arab language/the alphabet was not perfected until around 900 AD. Because of that, it frequently is difficult even today to know what word really was written, as one has to guess what vowels to use and what signs are missing. In cases where more than one meaning is possible, all the different possible meanings are judged to be correct by Islam – but they are called “ways of reading” to camouflage that there really are different varieties of the text. And also in the Hadith (explanation in next chapter) it is said that according to Muhammad, the Quran was sent down in 7 versions that all were correct, even where they differed. Not to mentioned all the different varieties that existed in earlier times because of the unclear language. (f. ex. in 1972 a number of very old Qurans were found in Yemen. They turned out to have “small, but significant differences” compared to modern ones - and then western scientists were denied access.) So when a Muslim tells the Quran is always correct, it is pertinent to ask him which Quran (the Arabic Quran dominating today, is the one that happened to be dominant in Egypt when they printed an edition in 1924, the one after Hafs, whereas the one after Warsh is used in parts of Africa, especially North Africa).
Actually for a long time there were 14 - fourteen - canonised versions of the book (Ibn Warraq: “Why I am not a Muslim” and others): Even after Uthman’s version, there were lots of others, partly because of the unclear alphabet. Then there was made a “final” canonisation influenced by the great Muslim teacher Ibn Mohair (dead 935 AD). They stated that 7 variants (other Muslim teachers accepted 10 to 14) had to be accepted as correct. But as each existed in two versions, one ended up with 14 different, all accepted as correct, because it was fully possible to understand the original in those different ways (and actually more), as the original as mentioned was written by means of a far from perfect alphabet. (To make an example in English: If you know that the vowels are omitted, and you have two letters you think represents a word - f. ex. “h” and “s” - the word can as well be “house” as “hose” or even “his“ or “has“).
These are the canonized 14 versions (they called it “ways of reading” – as said to hide that there were many variants). 1. name is the editor, 2. and 3. names are the narrators:

1+2:	Nafi from Medina	after Warsh or Qalun.
3+4:	Ibn Kathir from Mecca	after al-Bazzi or Qunbul.
5+6:	Ibn Amir from Damascus	after Hisham or Ibn Dhakwan.
7+8:	Abu Amr from Basra	after al-Duri or al-Susi.
9+10:	Asim from Kufa	after Hafs or Abu Bakr (not the caliph).
11+12:	Hamza from Kufa	after Khalaf or Khallad.
13+14:	Al-Kisai from Kufa	after al-Duri or Abul Harith.

As you understand there is a good reason for asking Muslims which Quran is the one perfect and without mistakes - and which one Allah really sent down (if he did). Only one of these really can be 100% correct - and may be none. Most likely none - too many varieties are possible. And too many mistakes etc. in the book.
Over the years 3 of these 14 came to dominate: Nafi after Warsh, Asim after Hafs and Abu Amr after al-Duri. And today there mostly are two versions that are used: Asim after Hafs - the one used when printed in Egypt in 1924 - and Nafi after Warsh (used in parts of Africa). Asim after Hafs is dominant today, but Nafi after Warsh as mentioned is used in large parts of Africa.
As the question of mistakes is very essential for Islam, we have chosen to quote all places where we have found something that clearly is wrong (numbered by numbers) or very likely wrong (numbered by letters). This means that the same mistake often will be repeated in different connections. We have chosen to mention most of them, so the reader will be able to find the places - if it is too boring to read repetitions many times, read the shortlist instead. You also will find many answers repeated many times (not in the shortlist) - simply because the Quran tells the same stories and the same tales again and again (and often in boring prose - not good literature, no matter what Muslims say).
And: During all these centuries lots of explanations for the mistakes have emerged (We will mention some of them). Some may be true, some make question marks, and a lot obviously are just fast-talk. Use your knowledge and your brain when you meet such explanations: Are they reliable explanations? Is it something that demands more research? Or is it simply fast-talk? All too often it is fast-talk.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 10

PART I, CHAPTER 10 (= I-10-0-0)

SHORT ABOUT HADITHS - THE OTHER SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS INFORMATION FOR MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS,AND ISLAM

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
In Islam you will meet the word Hadith (plural Ahadith in Arab) frequently. This is short stories or tales about things Muhammad and some of his closest co-workers (and especially in Shi’a Islam also some other early Muslims) said and did. What Islam reckons to be the most reliable collections, were collected 200-300 years after Muhammad, but as such tales then had been used and disused at a large scale for political and other purposes, already then there were literally hundreds of thousands of them, and most of them fakes (made up f. ex. by leaders wanting their followers to believe that this or that was according to Muhammad’s ways.) The best collectors did a huge and - we think – reasonably honest work to sort the good from the bad, and today there are some thousands Hadits said to be true. But even today they are sorted in four categories according to how likely it is that they really are true. There are mainly three criteria for evaluating how likely it is that a Hadith is true: Who told it to whom? How reliable were the persons telling and retelling the story? And did more persons tell the same story? The weak spot of course is that if someone faked a Hadith, it was as easy to fake who had told it, too. Some may be true, some perhaps – or surely - not, even in the best collections. The story with the three faked cartoons of Mohammad - faked by mullahs in Denmark to incite more anger - tells volumes both about how easy faking is, and about what morality even the clergy sometimes represent: The goal justifies - or sanctifies - the means, and al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie – an Islamic speciality) was and is convenient to use now and then. Enormous numbers of Hadiths were faked, and there is little doubt today that also a number of the accepted Hadiths in reality are fakes (the Quran f. ex. proves that all the Hadiths about miracles connected to Muhammad, are made up - if not they had been mentioned there, and - more essential - Muhammad had not had to explain away the fact that there never was a single miracle connected to him. Also Islam admits that "Muhammad made no miracle except the Quran") - and it is difficult to know which are which (though sometimes it is easy to see that this and this are fakes).
The two collections that are reconed by Islam to be the most reliable, are made one by Al-Bukhari and one by imam Muslim.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 11

PART I, CHAPTER 11 (= I-11-0-0)

SOME ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FROM AND ABOUT TEXTS IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
001 2/106: “None of Our (Allah’s*) revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar - - -“. “Substitute” in this connection means exactly the same as “abrogate”, but “abrogate” is a loaded word among some Muslims, as it “talks” about a god that is claimed to be omniscient and all the same he has to try and fail or he is unable quite to make up his mind about what he rally wants. Actually “substitute” tells exactly the same, but for some reason that word is not so “loaded”. Many Muslims denies that abrogations exists and try to explain away contradictions in the Quran in other ways, but abrogation is an integrated and adsolutely necessary part of Islam, both in the religion and in f. ex. the judicial system. Also see 16/101 below.
002 3/7: “He (Allah*) it is Who has sent down to thee (Muhammad/Muslims*) the Book (the Quran*), in it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); that are the foundation of the Book: others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and seeking for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except Allah.” It is very clear here that the plain and obvious meaning in the texts mainly is the correct understanding. When you remember that Muhammad’s congregation mainly was uneducated and often naïve people, it is even easier to understand that this had to be the case.
Then is the question about allegories. There are some scattered verses said to be allegories or similar, and which are explained the meanings of. As the meanings are explained, these must be understood as included in “verses basic or fundamental”.
There are no clear allegories, where the meaning is not obvious or explained. There are a number of verses where the meaning is difficult or impossible to see. But woollen speech does not mean an allegory – an allegory is a story that means something else. Woollen speech only is woollen or unclear speech - - - for “those in whose hearts is perversity”?
But in any text – even in Donald Duck – it is possible to find – or make up - hidden meanings. But this is strongly adviced against in this verse (3/7): Only Allah is qualified to do that:”- - - no one knows its hidden meaning except Allah”. And who is better to know just that than Allah? – the maker of the book (?) - and the one revering the presumed Mother Book in Allah's home, a book which the Quran is claimed to be a copy of(without proofs as normal for Islam)? But all the same a standard explanation used by Islam to “explain” any mistake or contradiction that is difficult to explain, is that it must not be understood literally but allegorically. As soon as f. ex. science shows that something in the Quran is wrong, that text switches from being “basic and fundamental – of established meaning”, to becoming an allegory. This in spite of Allah and in spite of the Quran. It is one of the three most frequently used last ditch ways Islam and Muslims use to try to “explain” away things that cannot be explained. (The other ones are: “You cannot take the meaning from just one point or a few verse – you have to judge from the whole connection (or the whole Quran)", and: "You are just a Muslim hater or Israel lover and what facts you tell consequently are invalid and of no interest"). This in spite of that they themselves happily and with glee quotes and often even twists words far out of context to favour Islam (f. ex. “There is (wrongly quoted) no compulsion in religion”) or to discredit any other religion). But 3/7 proves that to make up hidden meanings behind the words – f. ex. changing its meaning to be allegorical where an allegory is not indicated – is wrong and strongly against Allah’s wish and order – it is the work of “those in whose hearts is perversity”.
Also see 44/58 and 54/17below.
003 4/82: “Had it (the Quran*) been from other than Allah, they would have found therein much discrepancy.” Some 1700+ mistaken facts – may be some 3ooo mistakes all together - hundreds of contradictions, hundreds of cases of invalid logic, hundreds of cases of unclear language, lots of cases of invalid or even plainly wrong “signs” and “proofs” – it hardly is possible on this wide Earth to find a book containing a greater number of wrongs and wrong points - - - discerpancies. This in itself proves 100% that something is seriously wrong with the Quran and hence with Muhammad and with Islam. And combined with this verse it makes it an indisputable fact – at least 110% true: Something is wrong.
004 5/101: “Oh ye who believe! Do not ask questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble (in your belief in Muhammad/the Quran*)”. A Muslim had better not get knowledge that may tell him that Islam may be wrong – blind belief in a book full of mistakes, contradictions, etc. is better than to find out what is true; if there is a risk for that the truth is “wrong” compared to the Quran.
005 13/38: “For each periode is a Book (revealed)”. Because times are changing, Islam claims that Allah has sent down new books now and then – to Abraham (a nomad some 1900 years BC hardly knew how to read and write), to Moses, to the later Jews, and to Jesus (except that NT only came years after Jesus died) – and finally the Quran. Only some questions:

If the Quran is a copy of the Mother Book that is veneered in heaven, why is the Mother Book speaking nearly only to Muhammad, in spite of there having been 124ooo or more prophets through the times according to Islam?
If the Quran is a copy of the Mother Book, made aeons ago – perhaps existed since eternity – why does it advice Muhammad a lot, a dozen or so other prophets a little and all the other cohorts of prophets not at all – they, too, could need advices, and Allah could not quote the Mother Book to Noah or Lot or one of the claimed many others, just telling them tales about how Muhammad’s wives were told to be good girls – or to Jesus how to be bloody in war, etc. (Besides “Allah decides everything” is impossible even theoretically to combine with “man has free will”. Utterly impossible.)
If the Quran is the revealed copy of a Mother Book aeons old and meant for all the world, why then is the “present” and contemporary time and place and background for the book just the years when and just the area where Muhammad was a preacher? – there are tales about Moses and Abraham and Jesus and a few others, but those are tales – Muhammad and Mecca/Medina is the “present time” and the localisation and the background culture of the book – included wrong science, legends, fairy tales and ways of thinking and behaving. No omniscient and omnipotent god for all times and all the world is bound by time and area to a few years and a few thousand square miles – not to mention to lots of wrong knowledge connected to that uncivilized and backward time and place.
If a “for each periode is a book (revealed)” because times changes, why then is there not a new book long since? Things have changed more the last 300 years - yes, 100 years - than in all the former may be 200ooo years combined, something an omniscient and clairvoyant god like Allah knew long time before Muhammad was even a wish in his fathers eyes, if he is correctly described in the Quran.

006 16/101: “When We (Allah*) substitute one revelation for another - - -.” As “substitute” and “abrogation” in this connection means exactly the same – to replace one or more old verses with new ones and make the old ones invalid – this is one of the 100% proofs for that substitution/abrogation is part of the Quran - - - in spite of what some Muslims claim and dearly like to believe (that abrogations do not exist), because abrogations prove that Allah is not infallible and has to try and fail – and/or he is not very strong-minded and changes his mind now and then. Another similar proof is 2/106 – see that one above.
007 44/58: “Verily, We (Allah*) have made this (Quran) easy, in thy (Muhammad’s) tongue in order that they (people*) may give heed.” Also see 3/7 above and 54/17 below. There is no doubt that Muhammad/Allah meant the Quran to be understood literally. To search for hidden meanings of a not clearly indicated allegorie is wrong. All the same Muslims and Islam use claims in east and west as a last resort to be able to “explain” that which is not explainable if one reads the Quran literally and in the way Allah clearly states that it is to be read and understood – except for by those “in whose hearts is perversity” (3/7).
008 54/17: “And We (Allah*) have indeed made the Quran easy to understand - - -.” Anyone wanting to try to “explain” away difficult points like mistakes or invalid logic or contradictions by calling them allegories etc. should read this sentence. It even is written 4 times and thus a solidly cemented and nailed truth: The Quran is to be understood literally and search for hidden meanings is only for Allah, and such search only is for the ones “in whose hearts is perversity - - -." Explainings away that need claims about allegories, clearly is wrong - the Quran is to be understood literally id nothing else is said. (3/7). Also see 3/7 and 44/58 above.
009 54/20: Similar to 54/17.
010 54/32: Similar to 54/17.
011 54/40: Similar to 54/17.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 12

PART I, CHAPTER 12 (= I-12-0-0)

A SERIOUS PS ABOUT ISLAM AND MUSLIMS

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
WHEN READING THE QURAN - AND EVEN MORE WHEN YOU ARE READING COMMENTS, EXPLANATIONS OR “EXPLANATIONS” ABOUT WHAT IS TOLD IN THE BOOK, YOU SHOULD REMEMBER:

Muslims seldom or never use critical thinking when thinking or talking about their religion. They accept the Quran as the ultimate truth, and then try to adjust reality if “the map does not fit the terrain”. This no matter how obvious the mistake is.
Explaining things, Muslims often make conclusions going further than logic really permits.
Explaining things, Muslims often - often - states things for true that are not proved.
Explaining things, Muslims often states that they are right without proofs, and then demand proofs from any opponent. (Efficient way to “win” a discussion). Do not accept this – demand documentation and proofs for any statement, as they very often are wrong or unproven claims only.
Muslims tend to not accept science if that science collide with their religion.
Muslims tends to use science if it can be made to look - sometimes with a twist or two - like it supports their religion. Big Bang f. ex. is used to prove that the Quran is right when it says that the heavens and the Earth was once one body - even if it is easy to show it is wrong. Or that the big flood really was the flooding of the empty basin that became the Mediterranean Sea (f. ex. ”The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo) - which is even more easy to prove wrong, as that happened some 4 - 5 million years ago, before Homo Sapiens (modern man) even existed, and besides took many years to happen - water only rising some meters a year - as the strait was narrow in the beginning and the basin big).
The Quran tells it is to be read literally. All the same some Muslims use “advanced” arguments to “explain” that points or verses they do not want to be mistakes, are figurative ones - alegories.
There is not one single valid proof for a god in the Quran, with the possible exception of some “proofs” taken from the Bible - and they speak about the Jewish and Christian god (most of us do not know it, but his name is Yahweh) not Allah. And there definitely is not one single valid proof for the existence of Allah - in spite of what Islam tells us. Not one single. Only claims and statements - some of them very loose - and invalid “signs” and “proofs“ + invalid logic.
There is not one single valid proof for Muhammad’s connection to a god – only logically invalid claims and statements.
Muhammad was not really a prophet – he just “borrowed” that imposing and impressing title. A prophet is a person with the gift of: 1. Being able to make valid prophesies. 2. The prophesies he makes at least mostly are correct - if not he is a false prophet. 3. He makes so frequent and/or essential prophesies that to make prophesies clearly is part of his mission. Muhammad neither had this gift, nor pretended he had it, nor claimed he had it. (Details in the chapter about Muhammad.) He may have been a messenger for someone or something, but not a real prophet.
Muslims and Islam tell that Allah and Yahweh is the same god. But only Muslims (and a few others who take after Muslims on that point) say so. And there are so fundamental differences at too many central points, especially compared to the Christian religion, that the statement simply is not true - not unless the god is schizophrenic.
Islam tells that where the Quran differs from the Bible, the reason is that the Bible is falsified. Science tells that the reason is that Muhammad knew the Bible badly, and the easy way out when he said something colliding with the Bible, was to state that the Bible was falsified. Science actually long since has proved beyond any reasonable and most unreasonable doubts that Muhammad's not documented and never proved claim is wrong. An extra point here is that the stories in the Quran often are taken from apocryphal (made up) scriptures, and from Jewish and Christian and other legends and fairy tales, not from the Bible, and when then the story is different or does not exist in the Bible, Muhammad simply and boldly explains the “obvious”; that the reason why the Quran has a different story, is that the Bible is falsified - and Islam says the same today in spite of all proofs proving the opposite (they have to, because if not the religion is proved a falce one). Hardly one single real scientist today believes that the Quran is sent down by an omniscient god - and no professor of history outside believing Muslims ever uses it for a source of historical facts for history before 610 AD, no matter if Muslims insist that every word and every comma is true and identical to Muhammad's words - which is not true, as the comma did not exist in Arab when the Quran was collected.
Besides: All the old manuscripts also show that the claim that the Bible is falsified is not true – and the best proof for this, is that Islam has never produced any exaple of such an old falsification. Even though there exist many thousands (13ooo?) relevant old manuscripts, and many more (32ooo?) with references to the Bible, they do not contain any of the falsifications Islam claims – not one of them. If one single proof for falsification had been found, Islam had SCREAMED about it.
Muslims has a tendency to dismiss you as “Muslim hater” or “Israel lower” etc. in debates if they do not like what you say or if they need a way out from facts they cannot answer. BUT IF THE FACTS YOU PRESENTS ARE TRUE, THEY ARE TRUE NO MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE THIS OR THAT - YOUR PERSON IS IRRELEVANT FOR THE FACTS. Muslims often “forget” that.
Another way out from a difficult question or argument is this: “You cannot make conclusions from only one or a few verses – you have to judge from the general picture from the Quran”. This they claim even though they themselves condemn each and every other religion from bits and pieces of facts (or fiction). But as few non-Muslims have ever read the Quran, it is difficult for them to meet the claim. But honestly speaking: If you are unable to extract the essence of one or som verses, anybody should stay out of debated - their intellectual capasity is only up to bying bread and chees in a shop.
One straight answer to the point above is that anyone who is not able to extract the significant points from a text or part of a text, does not have the brain to take part in any debate and should stay out of it, instead of using diffuse claims - like you cannot judge from only parts of the Quran - to get out of difficulties.
And then there are the allegories. The Quran plainly states that it mainly is to be understood literally, see chapter about this or f. ex 3/7. But anything that is difficult to explain becomes allegories and is explained away in that way – included scientific mistakes in the book. Scientific “facts” in the book are – and have been – told to be literal facts - - - until real science gets too strong proofs for that it is wrong. Then it becomes allegories, according to Islam and Muslims. Most of what is told in the book was scientific facts for all the old congregations and followers, and for their scholars in the old time. Then – instead of checking what was wrong – each and every wrong fact was successively explained away or renamed "allegory" some years after the proofs for it being wrong became too strong. Today very much in the Quran are “allegories” (also see separate chapter). It is better to explain things away, than to face the possibility that something may be wrong. This even in the face of the terrible result Muslims may meet in a possible next life, if Islam is a made up religion – and even more so if a real god exists somewhere, a god they have been denied the possibility to search for.

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 13

PART I, CHAPTER 13 (= I-13-0-0)

SOURCES FOR THIS BOOK - "1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN"

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

“The Holy Qur’an”, translated to English by Abdullah Yusuf Ali. If nothing else is said, all quotations from the Quran are from this translation, the 2000 edition from Wordsworth Classics, printed with permission from Islamic Propagation Centre, Islamic Vision, 434 Coventry Road, Birmingham, B10 OUG, UK. Mr. A. Yusuf Ali is reckoned by Islam to be one of the top 3 translators of the Quran to English, if not THE best. The book is cheap in paperback, and anybody can read it and control if our quotations are correct. And look for the mistakes or other things if they want. The book is marked by the fact that the translator is a believing Muslim – sometimes his translations are on the positive side leaning towards orthodoxy more than towards the literal meaning of the texts. But the problem is not too big - - - and there hardly is anyone that is better.
“The Message of the Quran”, with extensive comments by Muhammad Asad. This is not the perfect sample of perfect translations or comments. Muhammad Asad (born Leopold Weiss in Poland in 1900) obviously has much knowledge, but as obviously wants to back up Islam, and also as obviously has some (though not enough – or he is “twisting” his facts) knowledge about other things, and goes out of his way – often far out of his way - to adjust the scientific facts to the Quran and Islam, or explain the Quran and Islam in such ways that its claims and statements perhaps fits the facts. Hypocrisy also is too frequent. To tell the truth our copy has many ballpoint pen marks like “wrong”, “dishonest?”, “fast talk”, “rubbish”, etc. But all the same Islam has few better books adressing ordinary people. Most Islamic books about the religion do not hold real scientific standard.This one is of the better ones after all, and a staple one and highly recommended by Muslims, plus that all its “colouring” without exception is pro-Islam, so that no Muslim can say we mainly use anti-Muslim sources. And there is so much that is wrong or peculiar or “special” in the Quran, that we can afford to use a book that is strongly pro-Islam – there are plenty all the same. And also we can show how facts sometimes are twisted in such debates.
NB: Before this edition of our book was ready for the net, we were made aware of that “The Message of the Quran” had come in new edition in English. We got hold of it, and have used it to some extent. It must be remarked that Mr. Asad as far as we know is dead. All the same the book is revised – but by people with less integrity and more religion than Mr. Asad. The old edition – well, you could not relay on everything, and his conclusions often was coloured by wishful thinking and orthodoxy. The new edition has reached a level of orthodoxy, where you had better check the facts from other sources – and compare the translations of the Quran with more reliable ones. (Like A. Yusuf Ali - after all he is more reliable - or Pikthall or Shakir).
“The Meaning of the Quran”, by Abdullah Yusuf Ali - the same as the translator of "our" Quran. But in this book he is less scientist and more orthodox Muslim. Too many of his tales and conclusions are marked by how Islam wants it to be, not how things are. He also here has a bit of a “normal” Islamic tendency: He “explains” fragments of a complex fact seemingly in a logical way – though often basing himself on undocumented claims and statements instead of on solid facts, and also he makes conclusions that are logically invalid (both of which are common from Muslims in debates) – and then “solve” the point - - - and omits to place it in the big picture, because then everybody at once see it is wrong. F. ex. explaining the 7 heavens with that it means the full universe - - - without touching the fact that the Quran clearly tells the stars are fastened to the lowest of the heavens, and f. ex. that all stars thus have to be at the same distance from us, that the Quran tells that stars are used as shooting stars to chase away bad spirits – to use a star for a shooting star, is so far away from reality that it is not even worth a comment – and that the moon is between the heavens = on the other side of the stars, and thus the stars are below the moon. All the same we use the book, simply because it has been impossible to find really honest scientific Islamic books about the Quran, and we wanted to use mainly Islamic sources, to avoid the easy way out for Muslims – and others – “you are just quoting Muslim-haters”. This is a much used excuse even though it does not matter if the fact comes from here or there – after all what counts is: “Are the facts true?” And after all this is one of the better books.
“Ahadits” (Hadiths) after Sahih Al-Bukhari. There are 6 collections of Hadiths that are especially revered in Islam. Of these Al-Bukhari and Muslim are reckoned to be the most reliable, with Al-Bukhari as the very best. Hadiths are short stories about what Muhammad and some of his co-workers said and did. But they were collected some 200 years after his death, and it is easy to prove that lots of them are made up, and few are possible to prove definitely to be correct. All the same the Hadiths is the main source for Islam and for Muslims for knowledge about Muhammad and his religion, after the Quran.
“Ahadits” (Hadiths) after Sahih Imam Muslim. See the point above. – Imam Muslim is reckoned to be a good no. 2 in quality.
“The Life of Muhammad”, by Muhammad Ibn Ishaq. This is reckoned by science and by Muslims to be the first and the most reliable biography made over Muhammad in the old times - though many Muslims want to reduce him, because he also tells about some of Muhammad's black sides and deeds (even though Ibn Hisham as mentioned below, tells he removed the darkest points - Muhammad clearly had more dark sides and/or deeds which are deleted from history). Ibn Ishaq was from a Jewish family that had become Muslims. He had lived for a long time in Medina, and had picked up much about Muhammad there. He in addition was very learned, and there is reason to believe he had extensive and to a large degree relatively correct information about Muhammad and his co-operators and followers. It was written around 750 AD at the court of the caliph in Bagdad – and at the caliph’s orders. One copy ended with a learned man named Ibn Hisham. He removed some parts that Muslims might find offensive (which means some dark information about Muhammad), but saved the rest, and in addition made a lot of comments, which also happened to be saved for the future. This was around 900 AD.
We also have used different other books (but very little) f. ex. Serge Trifcovic: “The Sword of Islam”, Ibn Warraq “Why I am not a Muslim”, a little from Internet, and when it comes to science, also some books and scientific magazines like “New Scientist”, “Scientific American”, “Nature”, and some others.
The absolutely main source: The Quran itself, in Abdullah Yusuf Ali's translation, and when we refer to comments, they mainly are from “The Message of the Quran” and “The Meaning of the Quran” – the other sources are used only infrequently. When it comes to scientific facts that are not well known, “New Scientist” is most frequently used.

NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Islam?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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chapter 1 - lesson 14

PART I, CHAPTER 14 (= I-14-0-0)

TRIES TO REFUTE AND DISCREDIT http://www.1000mistakes.com BY MUSLIMS AND ISLAM

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small) = likely cases.
www.1000.mistakes.com now (autumn 2009 AD) have been on the net one year.
The first reactions we got from Muslims, were not documented statements about how wrong we were, plus a number of claims - not documented - about what they said were right. Which were not right.
This was closely followed by death warnings. It is better to kill the bringer of facts you do not like, than to think things over - - - and perhaps have to question some of your old beliefs. Beliefs built on nothing but what others have told you without proving or documenting anything. Beliefs in reality built only on the words of a man who according to Islam was a thief/robber, extorter, womanizer, paedophil, enslaver, torturer, rapeist, torturer, murderer, mass murderer, hate-monger, war-monger, a man who institutionalized al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth), a man who had as a slogan that "war is deceit" (Muhammad Ibn Ishaq) and who declared that one should break even ones oaths if that give better results, not to mention a man who liked power - you find all this in the Quran and in the Sahih hadiths.
Such threaths tell volumes about how peaceful the war religion Islam - also claimed to be "the Religion of Peace" - is. It also tells volumes about Islam's lack of good arguments - if you have good arguments, it is not necessary to kill the opponent to win a debate.
The next step was that references to http://www.1000mistakes.com were blocked on many Muslim Internet pages - even on pages for debate. According to the Quran you shall not discuss subjects which can give you second thoughts - blind beilef and listening to undocumented "right" claims are much better.
Then something interesting happened this spring (2009): Islamic organisations sent out under cover warnings about 9 dangerouse Internet pages - but of course there was a leak and it ended on Internet. On that list was http://www.1000mistakes.com - and it was one of only 3 pages they neither called "hate pages" nor claimed that the quotes or facts were wrong. They only warned strictly against the page, because it may cause especially new recruits to Islam loose their faith.
Interesting for 2 reasons: 1). That is just the group we primarily try to reach. 2). The warning shows that the page bites.
And now we have discovered a new turn of the screw: Internet pages trying to refute http://www.1000mistakes.com .
F. ex. one poor soul is screaming: "Where has this site been refuted? - is there a muslim brother who refuted these points or the website?".
Now one thing is to scream for help to fint out what is the truth. But if you only scream for refuting, you get just the answers you deserve - and especially if you call only more or less professional explainers-away-of-painful-realities.
And there are soothing answers. Answers typical for some groups of Muslims: A lot of words, but loose words. A lot of explaining that this must be understood differently because the plain meaning is not what the Quran really means. A lot of claims for that this and this clear meaning, has a hidden meaning - is an allegory or something - that is the real meaning - - - this in spite of that Allah in the Quran states that the book has a clear and easy text with clear meanings, and that only the ones "sick of heart" look for hidden meanings because those only Allah can understand. I. e. Allah tells that the meanings the Quran clearly express, is what the Quran means.
But to call wrong information allegories, etc. all the same is one of the most used Islamic last resorts to explain away the unexplainable and the wrong - you meet it very often.
Here also is an intersting and most telling fact to be observed: Muslims in such cases do not always (to say the least of it) check their information very well - neither when "explaining" nor when listening. As long as the explanation or explaining away on the surface may look ok, it is told with a straight face that "this is the truth" - not even "it may be like this", but "it is like this" - and then accepted with few questions, but with relief, by the pious listeners who wants and wishes it to be true.
Yes, we had nearly forgotten this Muslim other speciality: To use not quite correct scientific facts and not quite correct logic.
We are not going heavily into this now, though we will use a little of it in the chapter about doubtful techniques of debate used by Muslims when debating Islam that will come in the next - and last - edition some time in 2010 AD (the complete edition).

Honestly he/she who calls not for the truth in such a serious question as religion, but only for refuting facts one does not like, deserves what answers he/she gets.
He/she who blindly believes and abstain from trying to find out what is the truth and not only what the old ones have told, and what one concequently wish for to be true, deserves to wake up in a next life - if such one exists. Especially if he or she was wrong and wakes up the wrong place.
And he or she who on top calls to more or less professional explainers-away-of-true-information, even more gets what answers they deserve - even to the second power.
And persons who believe such explainings-away without checking each and every piece of undocumented claims, even though they know how dishonest Muslims can be in such cases, and knowing that al-Taqiyya and Kitman are not only permitted, but compulsory in such cases if it is necessary to defend or forward the religion, deserves it even more - we do not even know to which power.

We give you stright information, and tell you where and what to look for. Check it if you want to search for the truth. If you only want to strengthen your wishful thinking, then call for Refuting. And we do not wish to squander time on such things - at least not now. Perhaps when this book is finished some time in 2010 AD. If you have the necessary brainpower, then check our information and facts and think yourself. If you only want to strengthen your wishful thinking - right or wrong - then call for some more or less honest "big brother" to explain the disturbing facts - but facts - away for you.
IF YOU REALLY LOOK FOR THE TRUTH, CHECK OUR INFORMATION. BUT CHECK MUSLIMS' "REFUTING" EVEN BETTER, AS FAR TOO MUCH OF IT IS BASED ON INVALID CLAIMS OR WRONG FACTS, HALF TRUTHS, OR TWISTING OF CORRECT FACTS. You do not have to believe us on this - simply check thoroughly yourself.
Well, as said we will use some of the "flowers" of the explaining away and "refuting" in our future chapter about unserious and dishonest debate of Islam and other religions from Muslims. But we add a few here to show the level of the "refuting":

One takes an inheritance and manages to get the parts to become = 1. And voila, there are no questions about the laws of inheritance in the Quran; "they are correct" - - - no matter the fact that Muslim lavyers make good money on all the problems these laws make. Invalid logic.
Muhammad foretold in the Gospel after John. This we have debated in the chapter about Muhammad in the Bible, and will not repeat it here - see that chapter. But it tells many booklets that Islam has been unable to find a better claim than this: When Jesus promised his apostles a helper - the Spirit of Truth - that would come to help them and be with them and be in them and be invisible to the world, he "must have meant Muhammad" - who was born 500 years after they were dead, was not with them,was not in them, was far from invisible to the world when ha finally was born - - and was very far from a spirit of truth (the real Muhammad was far from the semi-saint Muslims like to claim).
The Quran talks about 7 heavens "one on top of the other". One of the dear explainers-away stealtily transforms that to 7 universes even though the Arab word for universe is not used here. We also must remind him that the heavens are kept up there by invisible pillars, according to the Quran. And f. ex that the mooh is between the heavens - in this "translation" that means that at least one universe - not only a heaven, but a universe is between us and our Luna - our moon. Simply one more of many Muslim fantasy ad hoc "explanations" where someone without much knowledge or plenty of al-Taqiyya think they have found a GOOD IDEA and then fall flat because they forget some aspects of the picture: Her f. ex. the missing Arab word for universe, the hopless inbesility in claming that at least one universe then has to be placed between us and the moon. Not to mention it is totally un-scientific - scientists studying astronomy have many strange ideas, but not one single of them has ever aired a theory like this. This explainer-away had better produse at least a small proof for his transforming "heaven" to universe, etc.
Then there is the good old Big Bang theory disused once more - see our list of mistakes. To connect the Big Bang to 21/30 is only possible when talking to people knowing nothing about astronomy.Another loose claim without documentation - and in strong contradiction to science.
"If the Earth was nearer the sun, the temperatur woul raise sharply." Wrong. It would raise slowly - and the habitable zone atound our sun IF THE OTHER CONDITIONS WERE FAVORABLE (this is how astronomers define this expression) runs from a little inside Venus to past Mars - the margins are roomy.
"If the Earth did not spin, the oceans would empty all their water". Not even rubbish. The only effect would be a bit lower near equator, and a little higher near the poles. Besides: Where should it go when the oceans enptied themselves? - it is permitted to use ones brain. (The only case where the water perhaps - perhaps - would disappear, is if the Earth had a spin of one time a year, and in such a way that the same side all the time faced the sun ("locked" spin). Water would then settle as ice and snow on the far side compared to the sun. Buth whether all of it would stay there as ice, would depend on if the spin was completely locked, or if it wobbled, and on how much water a planet has - if it has much, the layer of ice will become thick, and slowly start to move, and the only place it could move, is towards lower places = towards places the ice has disappeared - and disappears - because it has melted to water.)
"The Earth's inclination (tilt) is 33 degrees." Wrong by far. It at present is 23.4 degrees, but varies a few degrees slowly over the years - though never 33 degrees.
"The seasons that are the result of Earth's inclination makes habitation possible". More rubbish - f. ex. there are huge habitations in the tropics where there are nearly no seasons in the meaning big changes of temperature (which is what the inclination causes). It is permitter to use one's brain.
If there was no inclination (tilt) "the poles would be in constand darkness and cold and the water would freeze there and disappear from the other places" (at least the meaning is correctly quoted, if not the words). Rubbish.
1. There are two effects that would descide the light on the poles in that case. One is the geometry: A big lamp will cause twilight or may be very early morning light on the poles of a small ball in such cases. And a sun is a big lamp compared to a planet.
2. Add the refraction - the bending of light in the atmosphere - and the sun would be low on the horizon ON BOTH POLES AT THE SAME TIME. Which means the poles both would have permanent daylight in case, exactly the opposite of the argument from our esteemed explainer-away. Check with yout professor of physics if you do not believe it.
3. And as for all the water becomming ice at the poles - is there any explainer-away that knows why this will not happen? After all nature has proved time and again that this does not happen - each and every geological ice period has proved this, even the giant "Snowball Earth" 700 million years ago - as said it is permitted to use your brain and combine it with your knowlwdge. The reason is very simple, but does any of the either low intelligent or al-Taqiyya explainers-away know why the claim is wrong?

Well, this is enough for now. We are going to slaughter a little bit more some of the Islamic disuse of logic and of scientific facts and lack honesty/use of al-Taqiyya in debates in the chapter about Muslim debates, that will come together with the other last chapters some time during 2010 AD.
But just one small thing:
The Quran tells that Allah is omnipotent and omniscient. It also tells that Allah is reliable and intelligent. And Allah tells in the Quran he has sent down a book that is plain and easy to understand - with plain language. He also tell that it is to be understood literally - it is only for Allah to look for the hidden meanings (yes, and for the ones "with an illness in their heart").
Do you really believe that such a god under such circumstances have such big probems with finding the correct words to conway exactly what he means? - and that mere humans time and again and again and again have to help him and explain what he "really" means? Hundreds of times in such an after all small book?
If you really are able to believe such a thing - from naivity or wishful thinking - then your brain either is so empty or so lazy that you really deserve the answers explainers-away are able to conjure up.
But it is heresy and an insult towards any god and his brain.
NB: If you find any mistakes anywhere, please inform us. If it is a real mistake, it will be corrected.
NB, NB, NB:
1. Read first the 2 small chapters "Some Essentials for how the Quran is to be read and understood" (VII-10-1) and "The Quran is to be understood literally if nothing else is indicated" (VII-10-2).
2. http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked by many Muslim authorities. To debate with persons in such areas, cut and paste what you want from the pages and send it under titles different from http://www.1000mistakes.com.
3. http://www.1000mistakes.com is one of 9 pages which Muslim organisetions warned especially against in 2008 and 2009 - it could make especially procelytes lose their belief in Islam; correct and "down-to-the-earth" information works. In this connection it is worth noting that in the "warning" http://www.1000mistakes.com was one of 3 which neither was accused of bringing wrong facts, nor of being a hate page.
4. Comment 141 (to verse 6/149) in “The Message of the Quran” (see point 5) explains (translated from Swedish) about Allah's claimed omniscience vs. man's claimed free will:
“With other words: The real connection between Allah’s knowledge about the future (and consequently about the unavoidable in what is to happen in the future*) on one side and man’s relatively (!!*) free will on the other – two statements that seems to contradict each other – lies outside what is possible for humans to understand, but as both statement are made from Allah (in the Quran*) both must be true”. Unbelievable. Blind belief is the only correct and intelligent way of life, even in the face of the utterly impossible!!
5. And an afterthought: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there is no proof for Allah and impossible to prove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to a god. And if there is no Allah and/or no connection between Muhammad and a god, what then is Muhammad? - and whar then is Islam? - a made up and invalid religion?
6. Further: All the mistakes, contradictions, etc. in that book prove 100% that the Quran is not made by an omniscient god - no god makes such and so many mistakes, etc. If then Islam is a made up religion, what then about all the Muslims who have been prohibitted from looking for a real religion (if such one exists)? And where will they in case wake up after living and practising such an inhuman war religion like Islam is according to the Quran (and to Hadiths), if there is a second life somewhere? - Hell or Paradise?
7. NB and PS: No matter how sure you are about something, if it is not proved, it is not knowledge, only belief or strong belief, and can be wrong. Only what is proved or possible to prove is knowledge.
(As http://www.1000mistakes.com is blocked in many Muslim areas - which shows they are afraid of it and lack arguments (if they had real arguments for http://www.1000mistakes.com is wrong, blocking was unneccessary) - "cut and paste" whatever you want from it and send if you want to inform or to debate there. Remember to omit the name http://www.1000mistakes.com).
PS: If we are blocked centrally - f. ex. by spam (there is too much at times already from unfriendly sources) we will reopen with new address somewhere else, and announce the new address om f. ex. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam. Also if your comments to us do not reach us, any comments posted on the thread "What is it with http://www.1000mistakes.com ?" (or make a page containing "1000 mistakes" in the title yourself if you want) on that forum will be read by us - it is a big international debate page.

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answer to murtad about quran 1001 question part1

PART I OVERVIEW OVER CONTENTS PLUS INTRODUCTION OF SOME TOPICS.

http://www.1000mistakes.com/1000mistakes/index.php?Page=001_001_001_001

PART I, CHAPTER 1 (= I-1-0-0)

1. 1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN, MAIN PAGE. CONTENTS - AN OVERVIEW

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I OVERVIEW OVER CONTENTS PLUS INTRODUCTION OF SOME TOPICS.

PART II THE MISTAKES AND ERRORS IN THE QURAN.

Part III: MORE MISTAKES AND ERRORS PLUS UNDOCUMENTED CLAIMS IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS,ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Part IV: SOME OF THE DEMANDS FOR JIHAD - HOLY WAR - IN THE QURAN AND ISLAM:

Part V: NON-MUSLIMS UNDER ISLAM ACCORDING TO THE QURAN AND ISLAM, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Part VI: MUSLIMS UNDER ISLAM IN mUSLIM COUNTRIES ACCORDING TO THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH:

Part VII: DIFFERENT TOPICS:

Part VIII: THE NEXT LIFE:

Part IX: SOME SPECIAL OR VERY SPECIAL TOPICS IN ISLAM:

Part X: INCINCERE DEBATES AND INFORMATION:

Part XI: SHORT ABOUT MUHAMMAD - THE SELF-PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF ISLAM:

Part XII: SOME RHOUGHTS AND CONCLUTIONS:

Part XIII: SOME RELEVANT ADDESSES:

PART I, CHAPTER 2 (= I-2-0-0)

APPROXIMATE AGE OF THE DIFFERENT SURAHS IN THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH + CROSS REFERENCES.

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

POST SCRIMTUM FOR THE TABEL.

PART I, CHAPTER 3 (= I-3-0-0)

SOME SERIOUS QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ABOUT THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 4 (= I-4-0-0)

4. TO MY MURDERER. FANATIC SIDES OF THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 5 (= I-5-0-0)

INTRODUCTION TO THE BOOK "1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN" - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND EVEN OF ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 6 (= I-6-0-0)

PREFACE ABOUT THE QURAN, THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 7 (= I-7-0-0)

SHORT ABOUT MUHAMMAD, THE PROPHET OF THE QURAN, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(There are much more in chapter XI).

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 8 (= I-8-0-0)

A FEW WORDS ABOUT ALLAH, THE GOD OF THE QURAN, MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, AND ISLAM

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 9 (= I-9-0-0)

THE MAKING AND TRANSLATION OF THE QURAN, THR HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

- AND SOME QUOTES

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 10 (= I-10-0-0)

SHORT ABOUT HADITHS - THE OTHER SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS INFORMATION FOR MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS,AND ISLAM

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 11 (= I-11-0-0)

SOME ESSENTIAL INFORMATION FROM AND ABOUT TEXTS IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 12 (= I-12-0-0)

A SERIOUS PS ABOUT ISLAM AND MUSLIMS

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 13 (= I-13-0-0)

SOURCES FOR THIS BOOK - "1000+ MISTAKES IN THE QURAN"

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

PART I, CHAPTER 14 (= I-14-0-0)

TRIES TO REFUTE AND DISCREDIT http://www.1000mistakes.com BY MUSLIMS AND ISLAM

(PART I, CHAPTERS 1 - 14 = SOME SPECIAL ASPECTS OF ISLAM AS TOLD IN THE QURAN - THE HOLY BOOK OF MUHAMMAD, MUSLIMS, ISLAM, AND ALLAH.)

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